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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jun 16, 2011 8:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: "What was your first Road Trip?" TDIH

June 16th, 1974 Iowa State Fairgrounds Des Moines, Iowa

Set 1

Bertha > Mexicali Blues > Row Jimmy > Beat It On Down The Line > Scarlet > Black Throated Wind > Sugaree > El Paso > It Must Have Been The Roses > Jack Straw > China Cat -> I Know You Rider > Around And Around.

Set 2

U.S. Blues > The Race Is On > Eyes Of The World -> Big River > Playing In The Band.

Set 3

Tennessee Jed > Me And My Uncle > Deal > Greatest Story Ever Told > Ship Of Fools > Truckin' -> Nobody's Fault But Mine Jam -> Wharf Rat -> Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad.

Encore
Casey Jones


We departed the Chicago area @ 9PM Saturday and headed south for I-80, caught the interstate and headed west destined for Des Moines. We crossed the Mississippi @ Midnight and even though it was invisible, a good sign to reaffirm that we were headed in the right direction.

We arrived at the Fairground @ 5AM got out of the car to stretch and assess the situation. A massive gate surrounded the fairgrounds as we walked up. There were large lights lit over the assemblage of the riser stage and the scaffolding as the crew were building this days sonic pyramid. Of all the places in the world my buddy from the local record store walked up, bug-eyed with a “shit-eatin” grin on his face and said “hey man“, small world indeed.

We didn’t even consider a motel room for our anticipation level was strong and with the sun rising up we decided to head over to the local Sambo’s for some breakfast. No sooner than we sit down at one of the booths in walks Keith and Donna and everybody turns and a silence falls over the table. “Wow” they’re human too and they eat breakfast! We tried not to pay too much attention but this may have been the closest to our idols that any of us had been.

For the middle of June in Iowa, Sunday turned out to be a mild day, 70 degrees, not too hot with sparse clouds overhead. The gates to the show opened @ 11AM, we walked onto the fairground dirt “which was a little weird” the stage was set-up with the “Wall” facing to the north. Folks sat down on the dirt and waited for the show to begin.

The show opened with “Bertha” and due to mediocre attendance we navigated our way right up to the front of the riser platform stage. Wow, here they are in all their glory, Jer on stage right? looking slim and clean shaven, jammin on his new sweetheart “the wolf” this indeed was the closest we had ever been at the feet of our musical hero’s. The first set new offering “Scarlet Begonias” was fun and the “China Cat” was uplifting and folks began to stand up and dance a little.

http://www.dozin.com/jers/guitars/wolf/wolf.htm

Having been heavily invested in the Marantz, Teac and ESS equipment of the day it was not only a thrill to see the band up-close but also the massive amount of McIntosh 2300 amplifier's and the stacks of JBL speaker enclosure's and trying to figure out how the system functioned. The first set sound was a little choppy as the levels were all over the map, most folks just sat on the dirt. It was my turn to drive back later that evening so staying straight for the duration of the performance was protocol, spent most of the day observing and taking pictures.

The sound system had more than it’s share of problems, during “Eyes of the World” which went way out there, as Jerry was working his wah-wah pedal an entire stack of JBL speakers blew and starting making these weird fluttering sounds. Crew members were scaling the scaffolding to reach the blown enclosures with replacement drivers in hand. Another speaker column blew during the intense moments of “Playing in the Band” and after the second go-around the crew simply chose to unplug the stack. Grateful that none of the Owsley liquid entered my body this afternoon, chances were good that I would have simply melted into a puddle after the intense Eyes and Playin. For that matter didn’t ingest anything at shows until 1983.

Once they got a handle on the sound, the system demonstrated an amazing clarity and separation of instruments, and the extension into the lower frequencies was also impressive being outdoors.

Hanging back with my friends girlfriend during “Ship of Fools” as she was beginning to lose it from some emotional drama that was present in their relationship she made the decision in the moment that they would be toast after returning home. The show closed out @ 6PM and we proceeded back to the car. I’ll never forget heading home driving East on the Interstate @ 9PM just after the sun had set and fell asleep at the wheel of the car for what was approximately 10 - 15 seconds, awoke and realized we had drifted onto the shoulder of the road. I grabbed the steering wheel with everything I had and kept my eyes as wide open as possible for the remainder of the journey home. Fortunately, everyone else was sleeping and have never repeated this sheer moment of carelessness since.

The Mars Hotel album was launched later that month and we played those grooves to death up to the Dead’s next Chicago performance at the International Amphitheater on July 25th, a building generally used for stock shows. This was a weird show indeed! The sound of the hall was horrible, we were well dressed with our dates and during Phil & Ned heads were dropping like flies and the bodies were being passed back through the crowd. The wrath of Owsley taketh yet another soul.

The link to the 06/16/74 show has been blocked here, so i’ll offer-up the Missoula MT show, one month prior, which is arguably a better performance in terms of musicality.

May 14th, 1974 http://www.archive.org/details/gd74-05-14.sbd.murphy.1823.sbeok.shnf

WRS Prelude > Weather Report Suite > Let It Grow > Dark Star > China Doll > Promised.


Ah yes, the Summer of 1974....of my first three shows, two have been delivered via Road Trips, Auditorium Theatre August 1971 and Des Moines 06/16/74, well at least snippets anyway. Fortunately for us they would reappear in June of 1976 with yet another line-up change and a return to the most beautiful & friendly confines of The Auditorium Theatre.


Care to share? What > When > Where was your first Road Trip? everybody has a “tale to tell”.

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Jun 17, 2011 4:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

First road trip for me was Harrisburg 6/23/84.
Not much of a road trip I guess, as it was only an hour and a half from home. LOL. In hindsight not a great show, but probably the most unique venue I ever saw a show at. Still think it was kinda cool to have a show on a small island in the middle of the Susquehanna river!

Followed this one up with a trek down to Merriweather a few days later. Again, only a couple hours from home but this one included my first time camping at shows. Had a great couple of days at what would turn out to be one of my favorite venues to see the band!!

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Poster: Skobud Date: Jun 17, 2011 5:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Snow & Rain put it best last week..."I'd just like to remind you to never believe a sociopathic bullshitter, no matter how many useless, extraneous, and easily obtainable details he includes to back it up."

Youre such a coward Kochman...Just post under your own name already.

You are doing that edit thing again too, Rob. You shouldnt make your posts so perfect. It makes them even less believable than they already are.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 17, 2011 5:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Um, you don't mean me, do you? Cuz I'm the only one with edits in this thread. Who's Rob? Other than Rob, I mean. Hall of mirrors ... hey, maybe Anthony Weiner is posting here, too.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jun 17, 2011 6:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

He doesn't mean you. See first post.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 17, 2011 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Oh, I know he doesn't think I'm Koch! Just can't figure out who else might be doing "that edit thing" and therefore be under suspicion as Rob's Secret Twin. Maybe it's another post and I'm just being clueless :-)

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Poster: Skobud Date: Jun 17, 2011 6:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

I was talking about Kochman, Althea. I would not say any of this type of thing to you(or anyone else for that matter).

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 17, 2011 7:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Oh sorry. I thought that one poster was Kochman and another was also Rob the Wordsmith. Oh, I get it now, that's not what you mean. To quote Emily Litella, "Never mind!" :-)



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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 17, 2011 7:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Just to be clear, I do not not now, never have, and never will have any connection with the entity known as 'Kochman'. I always post as 'robthewordsmith' (well, there was that one time when I... never mind that). Just so you know. Which you did anyway.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 17, 2011 7:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Yeah no one can quite slap you down and help you up like the 'smith. Unique.

Hustlers though are a dime a dozen.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

One is Rob Koch (AKA Kochman), the other is Rob (who may or may not be an actual 'wordsmith', but will probably 'mark' my post for poor punctuation, crap spelling, some or other English language misdemeanour) somebody-or-other.

The two posters are not related.

It is poor communication by other posters, by responding e.g."Rob... blah, blah,blah" that has caused this confusion.

I propose that the 'wordsmith' should be henceforth known as 'Rab' to eliminate any further confusion.

BTW, I am not Rob Koch.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Hello, Fuckface!

;-)

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Now then twat.
;p

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Rab-the-bat's-piss-smith

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 17, 2011 8:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

No, I didn't think he meant that. I thought he meant that I was he as you are he as you are not he but another he as we are all ... OK, cue Emily Litella again. But no, there's a little thing called "writer's voice," and the Smith is certainly distinct :-)

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Jun 17, 2011 10:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Maybe sometime someone can explain to me what this is all about. I have no idea who Kochman is.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jun 17, 2011 12:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Ring,as far as I know Kochman was the guy who ran another GD website called lost sailors pub,he is accused of posting here under multiple screen names,one being dark starz,the accusations then stretch to his posts being totally fabricated.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 17, 2011 10:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Hey! I think I used to try to do that sort of splaining...

But it got too be a bit of a chore, and frankly, I wasn't up to it. I am impressed by the fact that some folks do know their posters so well; I can do what Rosey does, but with some of these others, if it weren't for CLIFF and SBud filling me in, I'd be lost.

But never at the Pub; this is the ONLY site I've ever posted at, save a yr or two hard labor at Dead Hook.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jun 17, 2011 10:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Yes sir WT you were very good in your role and I am by no means trying to take up that slack,but since Ring is so nice and I thought I might be able to clarify things I gave it a shot.I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say it is always good to see you check in here at the forum.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 18, 2011 7:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

Hey JL--if you don't mind my asking, and sorry if this offends anyone, are you a former "pub poster" (which I wouldn't take offence at anyhow if I were)? I think SBud is (sorry, again), and thus the "insider" knowledge...?

You seem like a fine upstanding sort to me. Strangely, I know that Kman and others have had their issues, but when Kman and I first interacted, though we had a few moments, we settled into a reasonable "relationship" (jeeezz...?) of sorts, talking WWII history and such...never knew why it went South so dramatically, but I can understand how feelings get hurt "here", and then some things were done that shouldn't have been (as I understand it).

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jun 18, 2011 9:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Rob - wordsmith and otherwise

WT,I visited the pub site once and it was not to my liking,and I also had one interaction here with Mr. Kochman where I agreed with a point Cliff had made and he berated me as an intolerant,hateful person because I shared an opinion with Cliff on some GD related nonsense.I found him too be an insufferable asshole on many occasions after that.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 16, 2011 9:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

"We departed the Chicago area @ 9PM Saturday and headed south for I-80, caught the interstate and headed west destined for Des Moines."

That's quite an imagination youve got there Kochman, but don't lie to these good folks here. Your first show was 10/9/94...

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 17, 2011 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Horatio:
He waxes desperate with imagination.

Marcellus:
Let's follow. 'Tis not fit thus to obey him.

Horatio:
Have after. To what issue will this come?

Marcellus:
Something is rotten ...

Horatio:
Heaven will direct it.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jun 17, 2011 7:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

'Tis a fault to Heaven,
A fault against the dead, a fault to nature,
To reason most absurd."

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Poster: bkidwell Date: Jun 17, 2011 7:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

I'd been listening to the band for a few years with increasing intensity and admiration. A musician friend of mine called me up and said "I just got a couple tickets for the Grateful Dead in Oakland for Chinese New Year, you should really see them since Jerry probably won't live much longer." I said yes.

And that was how I ended up driving several thousand miles across the usa in my late teens to see the Dead for Chinese New Year's 1993. We were rubes and the trip featured hilarious scenes like us getting snow chains installed on our vehicle and driving down the interstate in wyoming with snow chains on in the breakdown lane at approximately 30 mph watching traffic zoom by, until the realization dawned that something Just Wasn't Right and I spent about two hours on my belly under the car in frigid weather, trying to get the chains off with blue and unresponsive fingers. By the time we arrived in california I had some kind of hellish sinus infection and a high fever but fortunately a nice doctor at the Petaluma hospital emergency room gave me some good antibiotics.

I saw my first show from the absolute back row perimeter of Oakland Auditorium, half-delirious and thoroughly dazed by fungus. I was expecting Jerry to be a lot more sickly than he was, and I enjoyed the shows a lot. Nothing exceptional, but it was still the Grateful Dead, which was more than enough for me. (and still is!)

I actually have a ton of strange anecdotes from that trip, where hazards ranging from oxygen deprivation to bee swarms threatened, but in the end, we returned home safe and sound. I never again traveled as far for a show as I did that very first trip.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jun 17, 2011 7:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Maybe you got your full dose of the road trip experience on that one? ;-)

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jun 17, 2011 8:32am
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But wait! Did you stop for dinner along the way? Had you eaten before you left?! What about bathroom breaks?!!

What kind of underwear was Phil wearing? I can't believe that you'd omit such critical details.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jun 17, 2011 1:18pm
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LOL

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 17, 2011 3:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Gosh, I love 6/16/74.

I can't possibly recall the sound systems from my first "road trip," or what interstate we took, or when we left ... I'm afraid I didn't run into any band members or feel particularly conscious of the quality of various songs, or the levels, or what the crew was doing, even though it was my 7th show. I enjoyed myself, though, and felt that I was quite adventurous to be traveling to see the band :-)

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1979-12-07.sbd.miller.23682.sbeok.shnf

Even the fact that it was 12/7/79 is something I’ve only reconstructed later! Pre-Deadnet I couldn't possibly have known the dates of my shows, but it’s been a fun “detective job” to figure out what I think is an accurate “personal show list” from clues like knowing where I went, roughly when (like "it was when my boyfriend was so-and-so, when was that, '82-83ish?"), and if I'm lucky, a bit about what was played. I really get a charge when I have a memory of a song and, gosh darn it, they DID play that when I remember it! And now I can hear the actual song, right here on the Archives! Kind of weird, honestly.

I found this comment on Deadnet on that 12/7/79 show, apparently from the person serving as the band's doctor: "Jerry and I had had a long private visit at intermission and discussed a number of medial [sic, presumably 'medical'] interests that he had ,but the most fascinating was his interest in the element Boron."

The element Boron?!?

Supposedly Bill Walton was also driving a remote-control car around on the stage. Not that I remember anything like that, LOL.

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Poster: Quincy Date: Jun 17, 2011 5:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Person in crowd: "Me and My Uncle, Me and My Uncle!" Sounds like Jerry says: "Yeah, yeah..." and goes right into Eyes.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jun 17, 2011 9:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Yup,

The December 1979 run was fun, we caught the Uptown Theatre shows from Dec 3rd - Dec 5th. The first evening we were in the first couple of rows of the balcony and behind us sat these two guy's who were both previous "football jocks" from our high school that i hadn't seen in years.

They were dosed and dancin and during "Terrapin" the one dude kept saying "Christmas Dead" to the sound of Brents keyboard sparkle during the song's transition from "Lady with a Fan" into "Terrapin".

It was good to see how these two had evolved from their previous mindset.

Ignorance is not necessarily a life-long condition.

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Jun 16, 2011 9:57pm
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too young. Sounds like it was amazing. Nice story

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jun 18, 2011 1:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'What was your first Road Trip?' TDIH

Amazing?

Interesting yes, fun? not yet, this was the first time in my life responsible for the lives of five people. The fairgrounds turned out to be a rather dismal place for a performance.

It was obvious that Phil, Bill & Donna didn't really want to be there, further it was mostly a losing proposition in terms of the business side as well.

If you think about the "Wall of Sound" technically you basically had five or six channels of information fed to amps and speakers dedicated to each musician with the balance of channels dedicated to the vocal's. The individual musician controlled their own specific volume.

There were no “stage monitors” and at times it was difficult for the performers to hear one another, hence the sound issues within the first set.

Jerry rose above the gloom of the event in his typical positive methodology and made a go of the day witnessed by his wild expressions during Eyes & Playin which brought both Weir & Keith along and there were a few great moments that indeed attest to this days historical significance.

“The fun” eventually arrived at The Auditorium Theatre in June of 1976. If you have come thus far, perhaps you’d be willing to go a little further....


Chicago Auditorium Theatre 06/27/76

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1976-06-27.sbd.digitalrbb.miller.112295.flac16


Chicago Auditorium Theatre 06/28/76

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1976-06-28.sbd.digitalrbb.miller.112296.flac16

- peace out! -

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Poster: polarized blue Date: Jun 18, 2011 1:22am
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Thanks so much for sharing. One of my favorite shows and Road Trips releases "thanks, Rhino". Only wish they had been complete shows, but hey... not complaining! I'm happy they put out what they did. Equal thanks for the Archive. Dark Starz, your essay is what I come here for. Firsthand accounts of the ones who were there. This is a great forum for all involved - nice feeling for one who is sharing, and nice for the reader, too. I listened to my Road Trips last week, think I'll put it on again today, the anniversary of Louisville, 6/18/74. Might also fill in the blanks via my copies on the hard drive, even though time-wise that may take a couple days for me. Precious little time. Let's all make the most of the moments.

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